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by bdrummond
Tue May 14, 2019 4:05 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 12
Views: 17361

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

Many decades ago a visit to the by then closed sidings at Balmuckety (there were two parallel roads) saw me come home with a handful of labels for wagons destined for Balmuckety but sadly they have long since gone astray. They showed a year-round traffic in draff used as animal feed, some from disti...
by bdrummond
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Strathearn School Trains
Replies: 2
Views: 2464

Re: Strathearn School Trains

Bill I can see no evidence in the working timetable of any trains on the Perth - Crieff line in the late forties which would have served children attending Crieff schools. There was at that time, however, a long-standing unadvertised Monday to Friday mixed train which left Crieff at 4pm for Blackfor...
by bdrummond
Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: GCR 2-8-0 on coal train
Replies: 17
Views: 15363

Re: GCR 2-8-0 on coal train

With regard to coal from Fife reaching Strathmore and the Caley, don't forget that the NBR and its successors had running rights by way of Arbroath to Forfar, Kirriemuir and Brechin. I have wagon labels from 1948 showing that the Michael Colliery regularly sent coal to Forfar (Branxton in the exampl...
by bdrummond
Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs
Replies: 2
Views: 3581

Re: Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs

Tom Thanks for your interesting response including your comments about my theories. Your comments also reminded me that the combining of the Up Special Aberdeen and Glasgow portions at Law was a phenomenon of the LMS and subsequently of BR to the late fifties. As you point out that changed to Carsta...
by bdrummond
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs
Replies: 2
Views: 3581

Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs

What is the most likely explanation as to why trains such as the Up Special remarshalled at Law rather than Carstairs? Was it as simple as congestion at the latter or did the layout not lend itself to such an operation for southbound traffic? Perhaps it's neither.

Bob Drummond
by bdrummond
Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:15 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Dunblane WTT
Replies: 4
Views: 5941

Re: Dunblane WTT

I could offer copies of section C freight and passenger working timetables for summer 1961.

Bob Drummond
by bdrummond
Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:26 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Spoil bank at Cardowan
Replies: 3
Views: 5181

Re: Spoil bank at Cardowan

Assuming the siding Jim identifies from the map is the one opposite the Cardowan Fire Clay Works, I'd say that could well be the Spoil Bank Siding in question. The 1915 Caley list of goods stations, depots, sidings etc lists it under Garnkirk and gives the lessee as W. Johnstone. There are strong tu...
by bdrummond
Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:49 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Small Local Engineers' yards.
Replies: 5
Views: 7011

Re: Small Local Engineers' yards.

Allan's recollections of activity at Muirhouse Yard in the latter half of the fifties is borne out in my Glasgow South District TT&S Engine Notice for 1959 which shows that Polmadie trip S.324 (class 3FT loco) called there Mon - Sat mornings 8 - 9, 10.20 - 10.30 and finally, after a call at Eglinton...
by bdrummond
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:22 pm
Forum: Structures, Equipment
Topic: Paisley.
Replies: 4
Views: 5861

Re: Paisley.

Hello Dave. Can you guide me as to whether the picture of Paisley Cross is yours and if so is there any chance of my showing it on another forum, that of the Letter Box Study Group. The interest is in the very clear view of the Penfold pillar box. There has been some doubt as to whether these boxes ...
by bdrummond
Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:58 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Bell's Yard, Glasgow
Replies: 6
Views: 8605

Re: Bell's Yard, Glasgow

The source quoted from for the Radio Times working was the Glasgow South District TT&S Engine Notice from 5th January 1959 ufn. It shows trip S.343 on Monday and Tuesday afternoons took empty vanfits from Crossmyloof to Hairmyres Factory. Later those same days loaded vanfits headed from Hairmyres by...
by bdrummond
Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:13 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Bell's Yard, Glasgow
Replies: 6
Views: 8605

Re: Bell's Yard, Glasgow

Bell's Yard was indeed on the other side of the main line and level with the QPLWorks. I see in 1935 two freights from Greenock called at Bell's Yard, including one for Grangemouth. It left Greenock Harbour at 9.20PM and at Bell's Yard detached South Side District traffic and attached classified tra...
by bdrummond
Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Bell's Yard, Glasgow
Replies: 6
Views: 8605

Re: Bell's Yard, Glasgow

Jim Bell's Yard was on the up side midway between Gushetfaulds Junction\ and Polmadie Bridge Box. As far as I can tell it dealt with workings heading in an up direction only. I've not had time to go through all my material but a 1935 Marshalling of Freight Trains book shows it dispatched early eveni...
by bdrummond
Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:44 am
Forum: Rolling Stock
Topic: D High & Sons
Replies: 4
Views: 3912

Re: D High & Sons

A little more info on David High is that he first appears in Leslie's Directory for Perth and Perthshire in the mid 1880s as a labourer, later as a contractor and later still as a contractor and coal merchant. Various addresses are given as he appears to move up the social ladder but as a coal merch...
by bdrummond
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:02 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services
Replies: 11
Views: 15861

Re: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services

Just a little more St J passenger info for you Ian from 1958. I overlooked a 12.40PM St E to St J which made calls at all stations between Shields Rd and St J. I was quite surprised to see that the lunchtime St E - St J and St J -St E workings survived as late as the 1965/66 public book, though the ...
by bdrummond
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:45 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services
Replies: 11
Views: 15861

Re: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services

Forgot to say the Summer 1958 WTT and public TT show an advertised 6.58AM SX Bridgeton Cross to St J. There was a slightly earlier St E to Georgetown and Bishopton which also called at St J. In the reverse direction a 1.30PM originating at St J ran to St E and again it shows in both books.

Bob
by bdrummond
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:29 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services
Replies: 11
Views: 15861

Re: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services

Thanks Ian. I've now spotted one 1951 St J working which was an unadvertised workmen's SX train from Bridgeton Cross (dep 7AM) calling at Dalmarnock, Rutherglen, Hillington (now West), Paisley G St, and finally arriving St J at 7.31AM. This ran back empty leaving at 8.40AM and arriving G St at 8.42A...
by bdrummond
Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:54 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services
Replies: 11
Views: 15861

Re: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services

Sorry, there was one passenger working in 1951 which started at St James and I'll give you details later.

Bob
by bdrummond
Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:24 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services
Replies: 11
Views: 15861

Re: Glasgow, Gourock & Wemyss Bay Services

Hi Ian. The closest WTT I have to 1948 is Summer 1951. The way the appropriate table is laid out suggests that the Port Glasgow to Wemyss Bay workings you mention, and which connected with the 11.35 AM, 9 PM (SX) and 9.18 PM (SO) trains from Central, were not through portions from Glasgow. On the ot...
by bdrummond
Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:59 pm
Forum: Rolling Stock
Topic: Another Location to Identify
Replies: 8
Views: 5020

Re: Another Location to Identify

I'd support the idea that the train is west-bound and has just passed West Ferry station. Streetview looking west from Douglas Terrace appears to me to show the narrow gable of the same building as can be seen in the photo albeit as seen from the other end. The white buildings to the east of it appe...
by bdrummond
Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:23 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Aberdeen - Marykirk carriage board.
Replies: 8
Views: 9887

Re: Aberdeen - Marykirk carriage board.

The investigation continues apace. To my surprise the early morning Aberdeen/Marykirk/Aberdeen working appeared in both the proposed 1939 Emergency TT and in the subsequent 'proper' Autumn 1939 TT. Approx 1942/43 the Laurencekirk to Marykirk leg switched to being 'empty carriages' only but the Aberd...
by bdrummond
Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:05 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Aberdeen - Marykirk carriage board.
Replies: 8
Views: 9887

Re: Aberdeen - Marykirk carriage board.

Glad to have helped Michael. I got a little more for you today from the May 1st 1924 Marshalling Book. The Marykirk turn was part of carriage working 359, one of two sets (360 was the other) otherwise devoted to Aberdeen/Stonehaven locals. Its day began in Aberdeen at 5.50 AM with the run out to Lau...
by bdrummond
Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:39 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Aberdeen - Marykirk carriage board.
Replies: 8
Views: 9887

Re: Aberdeen - Marykirk carriage board.

Michael There was in Caley and LMS days a longstanding early morning working from Aberdeen to Marykirk which left to return to Aberdeen shortly after 8 AM. The southbound working had a long pause at Laurencekirk, more than an hour in 1922 but reduced to 44 minutes by 1925. The Aberdeen/Marykirk work...
by bdrummond
Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: NPCS Vehicles by Goods Train
Replies: 7
Views: 9968

Re: NPCS Vehicles by Goods Train

This photo did appear several years ago in TTL and attracted comments which I can't at present find. However, the Sept 1929 FWTT shows M70 as an 'except Monday' working from Dundee West (dep 3.10pm) to Ross, calling at Perth South (arr 3.55 and dep 4.42). It is further described as 'table 5 to Stirl...
by bdrummond
Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:50 am
Forum: Structures, Equipment
Topic: Edzell branch infrastructure
Replies: 0
Views: 2610

Edzell branch infrastructure

With regard to the Edzell branch, does anyone have access to bridge numbers and the location of occupation/accommodation crossings?