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by bdrummond
Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:47 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: LNE Goods to Brechin
Replies: 1
Views: 1629

LNE Goods to Brechin

It may seem odd to begin a new topic on LNE goods workings to Brechin when the main discussion has been had recently on the Kirriemuir Branch Line thread. My reasoning is that anyone searching for that discussion might struggle to do so without this new thread to point the way. Graham will recall my...
by bdrummond
Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 36
Views: 32544

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

Hi Graham From the Brechin Advertiser I learn that your supposition that the lobbying had related to the operation of NB paasenger trains to Brechin is correct. With the opening of the Forth Bridge the previous year, a service for Brechiners to/from the NB station at Montrose opened up prospects of ...
by bdrummond
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:59 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 36
Views: 32544

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

Graham One more offering on the topic of the working of LNER goods to/from Brechin. It occurred to me that Simms' belief that 1934 saw its demise may have arisen because that was the year of the big shake up at Montrose with the diversion of passenger workings from the old LMSR station (including th...
by bdrummond
Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:28 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 36
Views: 32544

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

Thanks for responding to my posting Graham. Whilst I think we probably have the full story about the end in late 1932 of LNER goods workings to Forfar and Kirrie, I'm not convinced that we have enough to discount what you quoted of Simms' account as to what eventually happened at Brechin. I've now l...
by bdrummond
Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:22 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 36
Views: 32544

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

I've now found a reference to the withdrawal of the LNER goods agent from Brechin in the Brechin Advertiser of November 15th 1932. No exact dates are given, the report simply saying that ".. in future LNER business will be handled by respective LMSR agents ..". Unlike the situation as repo...
by bdrummond
Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:11 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 36
Views: 32544

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

I missed recent contributions to this interesting thread until now but can confirm that the Summer 1931 WTT still showed LNER freights to and from Kirrie and it's clear the service continued into 1932 as through the British Newspaper Archive I've just learned that Mr J S Crowe (who appears to have b...
by bdrummond
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:08 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Day excursion Carlisle to Dumfries and back
Replies: 5
Views: 3320

Re: Day excursion Carlisle to Dumfries and back

Thank you gentlmen for your comments.

Bob Drummond
by bdrummond
Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Day excursion Carlisle to Dumfries and back
Replies: 5
Views: 3320

Re: Day excursion Carlisle to Dumfries and back

But surely the normal Caley route from Carlisle to Dumfries would have been by Lockerbie and the Dumfries branch from there.

Bob Drummond
by bdrummond
Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Day excursion Carlisle to Dumfries and back
Replies: 5
Views: 3320

Day excursion Carlisle to Dumfries and back

This might at first appear to be a GSWR query but look at the route specified on the ticket. Issued in March 1935, it belongs to a collector friend Ian Gardner. We are bereft of ideas as to why such a tour would be marketed other than as a regularly available seasonal circular tour but the ticket ma...
by bdrummond
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:56 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Not a Christmas quiz
Replies: 23
Views: 9464

Re: Not a Christmas quiz

Happy to help.

Bob
by bdrummond
Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:29 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Not a Christmas quiz
Replies: 23
Views: 9464

Re: Not a Christmas quiz

Hi. I'm not sure my explanation of the pedigree of the Royal Mail vehicles at Dumfries in July 1964 has clarified the fact that the Up and Down Specials (TPOs Glasgow to Euston and vice versa) did not use the GSWR route. Apart from the possibility of diversions for reasons of weather or track mainte...
by bdrummond
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Not a Christmas quiz
Replies: 23
Views: 9464

Re: Not a Christmas quiz

I see the question asked earlier in this thread about the reason for the postal vehicles on the 06.50 parcels of July 31st 1964 from Carlisle to Glasgow which was photographed at Dumfries by Deek Cross and featured on page 59 of Steam in Scotland Volume 1 has gone unanswered. The regular northbound ...
by bdrummond
Tue May 14, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Kirriemuir Branch Line
Replies: 36
Views: 32544

Re: Kirriemuir Branch Line

Many decades ago a visit to the by then closed sidings at Balmuckety (there were two parallel roads) saw me come home with a handful of labels for wagons destined for Balmuckety but sadly they have long since gone astray. They showed a year-round traffic in draff used as animal feed, some from disti...
by bdrummond
Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:36 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Strathearn School Trains
Replies: 2
Views: 4357

Re: Strathearn School Trains

Bill I can see no evidence in the working timetable of any trains on the Perth - Crieff line in the late forties which would have served children attending Crieff schools. There was at that time, however, a long-standing unadvertised Monday to Friday mixed train which left Crieff at 4pm for Blackfor...
by bdrummond
Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: GCR 2-8-0 on coal train
Replies: 17
Views: 23427

Re: GCR 2-8-0 on coal train

With regard to coal from Fife reaching Strathmore and the Caley, don't forget that the NBR and its successors had running rights by way of Arbroath to Forfar, Kirriemuir and Brechin. I have wagon labels from 1948 showing that the Michael Colliery regularly sent coal to Forfar (Branxton in the exampl...
by bdrummond
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs
Replies: 2
Views: 5154

Re: Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs

Tom Thanks for your interesting response including your comments about my theories. Your comments also reminded me that the combining of the Up Special Aberdeen and Glasgow portions at Law was a phenomenon of the LMS and subsequently of BR to the late fifties. As you point out that changed to Carsta...
by bdrummond
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:36 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs
Replies: 2
Views: 5154

Law Junction as opposed to Carstairs

What is the most likely explanation as to why trains such as the Up Special remarshalled at Law rather than Carstairs? Was it as simple as congestion at the latter or did the layout not lend itself to such an operation for southbound traffic? Perhaps it's neither.

Bob Drummond
by bdrummond
Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:15 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Dunblane WTT
Replies: 4
Views: 8162

Re: Dunblane WTT

I could offer copies of section C freight and passenger working timetables for summer 1961.

Bob Drummond
by bdrummond
Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:26 am
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Spoil bank at Cardowan
Replies: 3
Views: 7039

Re: Spoil bank at Cardowan

Assuming the siding Jim identifies from the map is the one opposite the Cardowan Fire Clay Works, I'd say that could well be the Spoil Bank Siding in question. The 1915 Caley list of goods stations, depots, sidings etc lists it under Garnkirk and gives the lessee as W. Johnstone. There are strong tu...
by bdrummond
Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Small Local Engineers' yards.
Replies: 5
Views: 9899

Re: Small Local Engineers' yards.

Allan's recollections of activity at Muirhouse Yard in the latter half of the fifties is borne out in my Glasgow South District TT&S Engine Notice for 1959 which shows that Polmadie trip S.324 (class 3FT loco) called there Mon - Sat mornings 8 - 9, 10.20 - 10.30 and finally, after a call at Egli...
by bdrummond
Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:22 pm
Forum: Structures, Equipment
Topic: Paisley.
Replies: 4
Views: 8024

Re: Paisley.

Hello Dave. Can you guide me as to whether the picture of Paisley Cross is yours and if so is there any chance of my showing it on another forum, that of the Letter Box Study Group. The interest is in the very clear view of the Penfold pillar box. There has been some doubt as to whether these boxes ...
by bdrummond
Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:58 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Bell's Yard, Glasgow
Replies: 7
Views: 12744

Re: Bell's Yard, Glasgow

The source quoted from for the Radio Times working was the Glasgow South District TT&S Engine Notice from 5th January 1959 ufn. It shows trip S.343 on Monday and Tuesday afternoons took empty vanfits from Crossmyloof to Hairmyres Factory. Later those same days loaded vanfits headed from Hairmyre...
by bdrummond
Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:13 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Bell's Yard, Glasgow
Replies: 7
Views: 12744

Re: Bell's Yard, Glasgow

Bell's Yard was indeed on the other side of the main line and level with the QPLWorks. I see in 1935 two freights from Greenock called at Bell's Yard, including one for Grangemouth. It left Greenock Harbour at 9.20PM and at Bell's Yard detached South Side District traffic and attached classified tra...
by bdrummond
Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:36 pm
Forum: Operation, Administration
Topic: Bell's Yard, Glasgow
Replies: 7
Views: 12744

Re: Bell's Yard, Glasgow

Jim Bell's Yard was on the up side midway between Gushetfaulds Junction\ and Polmadie Bridge Box. As far as I can tell it dealt with workings heading in an up direction only. I've not had time to go through all my material but a 1935 Marshalling of Freight Trains book shows it dispatched early eveni...
by bdrummond
Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:44 am
Forum: Rolling Stock
Topic: D High & Sons
Replies: 4
Views: 6147

Re: D High & Sons

A little more info on David High is that he first appears in Leslie's Directory for Perth and Perthshire in the mid 1880s as a labourer, later as a contractor and later still as a contractor and coal merchant. Various addresses are given as he appears to move up the social ladder but as a coal merch...