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Motherwell (66B) McIntosh 3Fs

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:02 pm
by charles d
I wonder if anyone can help point me in the direction of answers to the following enquiries. The time period I am interested in is mid 1950s

1. 57592 - (TTL 117 page 25) what was the date of transfer from Balornock

2. 57595 - I have the Jim Grindlay book and there is a photo on page 6. However rhe front bufferbeam area is very dark. Dave Pratt has kindly given me a better copy but I'm stll unsure whether there is a vac hose present.

3. 57638 - I have been unable to trace a photo of this loco.

4. Tenders - were any of the Motherwell 3Fs at that time coupled to a 3570g tender.

The information is requested to assist in the completion of two Caley Coaches kits



Re: Motherwell (66B) McIntosh 3Fs

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:01 am
by caley739
Re 57592

She seems to have been at Dawsholm throughout the 1950s."The Xpress Locomotive Register Volume 2 London Midland Region (sic) 1950-1960" shows her there at all periods Aug 1950 to Oct 1960 . For earlier days "LMS Engine Sheds Volume 7" shows her as 17592 at Dawsholm in 1945 and "London Midland Scottish Railway Locomotive Allocations The Last Day 1947" shows her at Kingmoor.
While some of these publications could not be considered 100% reliable,( eg the Xpress Register refers to Dawsholme rather than Dawsholm) it would seem 57592 went to Motherwell between late 1960 and 1963. The only way to pin it down precisely would be to trawl through Railway Observer or Trains Illustrated magazines for that period.

SLS Journal Feb 1963 shows her to 66E (Carstairs) seven weeks period ending 29/12/62, and SLS Journal April 1963 shows her to 66B (Motherwell) undated ! but seems to be between 11/2/63 and 1/3/63.

Hope this is of interest.

Tom Robertson

Re: Motherwell (66B) McIntosh 3Fs

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:43 pm
by charles d

Many thanks for the information which was as I feared - she was a late arrival at 66B. I was rather taken that the lubricators on the smokebox front were still in situ (although the TTL photo shows pretty sloppy oiling) but middle fifties have her elsewhere.

I have come across three photos (in Jim Clemens Steam Trails book) of a 3F at Bonnybridge Silica & Fireclay Co where the captions say the engine is 57592 and the date is July 1963 - a long haul from Motherwell. The engine number is not clear from the photos.

Kind regards

Charles d