Harthope Viaduct occupation underpass

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WCML55.68
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Harthope Viaduct occupation underpass

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Good evening,

Can anyone help with a broadside photograph showing the shape and size of the opening and retaining walls of the occupation underpass just to the north of the staff cottages beside Harthope Viaduct on Beattock Bank? Or perhaps of any other similar underpass on the Caledonian section of the WCML. Was there a standard design? The link is a distant shot of this, just in front of the 87 at the back of the artic.

https://www.railscot.co.uk/img/26/635/

Many thanks for any help, Paul.

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Re: Harthope Viaduct occupation underpass

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Paul,
The October edition of "Steam Days" has a feature on Beattock, and on page 31 is a photo looking down on what may be your underpass.
Obviously I can't post the picture here, but the magazine may be worth buying for that and for the feature of Derek Cross colour pictures. Another shows the enhancement under way of the A74 under Harthope viaduct.
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Many thanks Jim, I will get a copy. Fingers crossed.
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Hello Jim, Steam Days duly purchased, thanks for the nod. Would have bought this anyway for the content, but the question still remains. The Duchess on P31 is actually further north just around the corner on the extreme left of the double spread on P32/33. i think the area this side of the Duchess has been buried, presumably with spoil from the M74 construction. The underpass required is actually on the double spread, you can just make out the brickwork immediately to the left of the cottage chimneys, and the yellow van trailer is parked in the entrance to the underpass. A good broadside shot is proving very elusive, but I suspect the shape of the opening is an arch to a standard CR design. Regards, Paul.
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Hello Jim,
Problem solved. Theres a distant broadside shot on Railscot. The photographer has very kindly provided a high-res shot clearly indicating shape and size of portal.
https://www.railscot.co.uk/img/26/635/
Thanks to all for input. Its saved another trip to Harthope, although I suspect that the underpass, which doesnt go anywhere now, has either been filled in of maybe concrete lined. The area is so overgrown its certainly not visible on Streetview.
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Problem solved even more effectively.

To the right of 237e is a side-on view of the Double Bend sign which was the replacement of a smaller sign nearer the cottages, brought forwards, enlarged and with a sighting board, presumably yellow, behind after the 1955 triple fatal accident on the corner. Its the earliest example Ive come across of a PWB sign with a sighting board but Ive not managed to find any further details about the accident. It will be out there somewhere.

It looks like the parapet has been renewed in brick, 13 courses so can scale up from that, and the stonework appears to be exactly the same colours and format as the dwelling House.

MM Ltd, Murdoch Mackenzie Ltd of Motherwell, contractors for the widening of the A74 here and still going today.

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