Caledonian Lamp / glass holder.

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Tony Guyan
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Caledonian Lamp / glass holder.

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Hello i have recently bought what looks like a glass or even a small lamp holder there is a three inch circular void and on the out side of the ocntasiner there are large letters with C.R. emblazoned at the back is a sturdy up right with three screw holes. This item is made of cast iron and is quite sturdy, i have sent stills to a few friends who have expertise in this area but have all have drawn a blank, is it possible to upload stills to this page?
dunalastairv
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Post by dunalastairv »

Good morning, I specialise in collecting Caledonian Railway equipment and from your description, this sounds like a carriage lamp holder, BUT that's only a guess and without being able to view a picture of it I cannot be more accurate.

I understand the difficulty of uploading images onto the Forum - indeed my lack of computer expertise means I've never been able to do so. However, if you will e-mail me direct to [email protected] with the image I'll gladly give it my full attention and reply to you; at the same time promulgating the information here on the Forum.

Kind regards, Michael.
Tony Guyan
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Hello Michael.

Thankyou kindly for your suggestion, i think that you are probably right but i will forward stills to your email address in the hope that you can solve this riddle

Kind regards,

Tony Guyan.
Tony Guyan
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Re: Caledonian Lamp / glass holder.

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Hello Michael.

Thankyou kindly for your suggestion, i think that you are probably right but i will forward stills to your email address in the hope that you can solve this riddle

Kind regards,

Tony Guyan.
dunalastairv
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Re: Caledonian Lamp / glass holder.

Post by dunalastairv »

Tony has very kindly sent me illustrations of this item, which is the shape of a large coffee cup holder with a back bracket containing holes for three large countersunk woodscrews, and is a single iron casting made with much skill. The letters 'C R' are cast in as an integral part of the whole, and are ornate in character: in other words, a lot of trouble has been taken in making it. It has been restored in blue, with white letters, and I'd guess it dates from around 1900.

In my opinion, it's a flag pole holder and probably came from the front of the Princes' Street or Central Hotels, or from the Company's offices in Buchanan Street. The Caley definitely had flag poles: there is a reference to the Company's flags flying at half-mast upon the death and funeral of a General Manager.

Michael.
Jim Summers
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Post by Jim Summers »

Here is the photo of the flag pole holder which Michael had some difficult uploading. It must have been for a very big flag!

Is it not wonderful the variety of things which the study of our railways leads us into?

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dunalastairv
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Post by dunalastairv »

People will think I can't leave this subject alone but I don't believe the flag pole - if that's what it was - would be as huge as might first be thought. The diameter of the bottom hole of this casting looks to be only an inch and a half or so - fine for a flag pole - but the upper part is in effect open, giving the impression it's designed for a huge diameter. However, I would suggest this bracket was mounted on the side of a building, not on the roof, and the pole was designed to lean out at say, 30 degrees, which is what some pictures illustrate. The shape of the casting allows this to happen.

My last word on this post!

Michael.
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