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Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:18 pm
by RossB
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:27 pm
by RossB
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:30 pm
by RossB
Emergency Van
The final vehicle for now will be a second Emergency Van. This is one of the latter Diagram 119 vans.

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Ross
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:45 pm
by Jim Summers
Thanks for those, Ross. Very nice work, and such important vehicles for atmosphere.
JimS
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:37 pm
by MIKEWILLIAMS
Great stuff Ross. In the enlargement of the St. Rollox picture on p. 279, the packing wagon is almost certainly lettered MOTHERWELL STEAM CRANE No. X. Crucially, the exhaust from crane No.4 just fogs it slightly.
Best
Mike
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:36 pm
by RossB
Excellent, thanks Mike. Do you think the packing wagons would have carried the number of the crane they were associated with like the match wagons did? Presumably the actual wagon number would be displayed separately if so.
Ross
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:17 am
by MIKEWILLIAMS
It would take the identity of the crane, Ross. The number of the wagon in the photo is single digit, so in this case it would be 3 or 4 since both cranes were on the scene.
Best
Mike
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:39 pm
by RossB
I've now lettered the packing wagon and painted the kitchen van. The kitchen van is a bit of a guess, I can't see them keeping their full passenger livery after conversion. The colours haven't shown up too well in the photograph but the ends are vermillion and I used a light grey for the roof and tires rather than the bright white of a freshly ex-works vehicle. I'm just waiting now for someone to produce a photograph of one showing what it should look like!

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Ross
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:38 pm
by RossB
I've made a start on the interior of the kitchen van.

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Ross
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:00 pm
by lindsay_g
It's all looking good. How did you do your decal lettering?
Lindsay
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:01 am
by RossB
Thanks Lindsay. All the lettering is from HMRS sheets. I find that if the surface of the model is wetted first, the letters won't sick straight away and they can be used like waterslide decals once released from the backing. They take a while to dry in but it does mean that the individual letters can be adjusted once the whole word is in place. I use them for traders wagons too.
Ross
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:53 pm
by Alan K
Hi Ross
Hadn't heard of that before. Are you talking about Pressfix or Methfix?
I'm interested because I've just had an email from Eileens that the HMRS transfers I've been waiting for since May are in the post!! So I can get that 498 Class engine finished at last.....
Alan
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 am
by RossB
It's the Pressfix transfers Alan. I've tried using them as intended but I've always found them difficult to position and almost impossible to adjust without damaging them.
Ross
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:37 am
by MIKEWILLIAMS
Ross, I've just looked at the photo of your runner wagon again. You need to reduce the depth of the axleboxes. Part of the journal was inside the w-iron - see the end elevation and photos of the 7-ton bogie on pp. 86-7 of the wagon book. Your arrangement probably does funny things to the footboards as well. You may have the same problem on the packing wagons too, but I can't tell from your photos.
Best
Mike
Re: Modelling a Breakdown Train
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:04 am
by RossB
Thanks Mike. I just used standard wagon axleboxes, I thought they looked a bit wide! They will return to the works for modification in due course.
Ross